Theology for the Unwanted

Join Dan and Jon as they explore Catholic moral theology as two guys who both love being Catholic but haven’t always felt 100% welcome. Theology for the Unwanted shares touching stories from countless who have felt this way about some aspect of their life. We dive into what moral theologians working on these complex issues have to say. You might be surprised at just how much Catholic cultures vary country by country. Yet we still find a way to stay unified and deeply devoted to Christian life. Particularly in the modern world, faith is often filtered through a cultural lens or religious discipline. But through hearing these stories, we create a sense of unity among Catholics, even those who have different opinions. If we think of theology as reality, pointing us toward God, then we come to understand it as a lived experience. This helps us all live out our faith in a more concrete sacramental way. All of us, including non-practicing and former Catholics, have something in common. The Father desires to see you in heaven, Jesus died on that Cross for you, and Mary our mother deeply cares for you as her own child. By putting on that lens we can finally start doing serious theology and making everyone feel wanted. A special thank you to each guest that has come on the show. They come from many backgrounds with diverse views. Their contributions are never considered an endorsement of Theology for the Unwanted. But Dan and Jon believe that each guest has an important and unique message that can help Catholics overall further discern how to recognize Christ in their lives.

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Episodes

Wednesday Oct 01, 2025

Host Dan and co-host Jon sit down with theologian Brandon Ambrosino to explore his book Is It God’s Will?—a frank conversation about where God is in tragedy, the role of randomness and divine presence, and how Jesus’ suffering shapes Christian responses to pain.
Our guest proposes a shift toward a relational understanding of God's power and presence, focusing on the meaning of "God is with us" (Emmanuel).
The episode also addresses practical faith questions: how Christians should accompany suffering people, reinterpretations of the cross and resurrection, and hopeful reflections on the Catholic Church’s teaching and pastoral outreach toward LGBT people.

Wednesday Sep 24, 2025

Hosts Dan and Jon explore how the Church can move mercy from abstract theology into real encounters. They discuss pastoral responses to LGBT/same-sex attracted Catholics, divorced and remarried people, IVF parents, immigration work, and the controversy around a Chicago award for Senator Dick Durbin.
Through personal stories — tattoos, homeless outreach, and an Oppenheimer quote — the episode emphasizes listening, proximity, and relationship as the heart of mercy, urging listeners to ask questions and share their stories.

Tuesday Sep 16, 2025

Hosts Dan and Jon tackle tough pastoral topics—from IVF, annulments, and same-sex couples to questions about sexual ethics—while tracing how Catholic moral teaching developed from medieval monks to modern debates.
Using Aquinas’s framework of action, circumstance, and intent and Father Fumagalli’s symbolic action theory, they show why sharing personal stories matters for a more compassionate, sensible Church response.

Tuesday Sep 09, 2025

In this episode of Theology Forward: The Unwanted, hosts Dan and Jon talk with hospital chaplain Matthew about suffering, empathy, and how the Church can accompany those who feel marginalized. They discuss St. Catherine of Siena, clinical chaplaincy, and personal stories of coming out to explore how pain can open the way to compassion.
Matthew shares his journey from seminary to chaplaincy, explains inherent versus avoidable suffering, and urges a church that listens and stays with people in their wounds—offering presence and mercy before scripted responses.

Tuesday Sep 02, 2025

Hosts Dan and Jon return from summer breaks to discuss communion laws, parish side‑eye, and how culture shapes enforcement of church rules. They mix personal stories (honeymoon travel, drumsticks, a Navy baptism) with pastoral questions about addicts, divorced‑and‑remarried Catholics, and same‑sex attracted parishioners.
The episode argues the sacraments exist for people’s salvation, urges mercy over rigid policing, and highlights the Eucharist as both truth and communal unity — a call to welcome and accompany those who feel unwanted.

Monday Aug 04, 2025

In this episode of The Theology for the Unwanted, join Dan and Jon as they welcome a remarkable guest, Justin from Empty Chairs, who shares his journey of growing up in a devout Catholic environment while exploring his personal identity. Justin candidly discusses his experiences of discerning a vocation, grappling with his sexual orientation, and the pivotal moment of coming out at 25.
The conversation explores the broader implications of creating a welcoming environment within the Catholic Church for those who often feel marginalized. The hosts and Justin reflect on the challenge of maintaining one's faith while embracing one's identity and how, in their hopes and dreams, the Church can become a more inclusive and understanding community.
With raw honesty and humor, they tackle the Church’s culture of secrecy, the pressures of fitting into preconceived roles, and the importance of authentic love and acceptance. Discover how they envision a future where Catholicism is not about rigid conformity but genuine connection with God and people. Listen in for an engaging discussion on building an empathetic church that listens before it speaks.

Wednesday Jul 30, 2025

Join us in this insightful episode as hosts Dan and Jon dive into an engaging conversation with Matthew, a special guest from the Sant'Egidio community in Washington, DC. Matthew shares his journey of reconversion to the Catholic faith, revealing how his struggle with materialism and a mental health crisis led him back to the church. Despite differences in political viewpoints, Matthew and Dan explore the profound connection they share through their faith.
The discussion takes a thoughtful turn as Matthew describes the contrasting experiences of attending traditional Latin Mass and the challenges faced by parishes in fostering a true sense of community. With candid reflections on how the Eucharist should not only symbolize the body of Christ but also unify the church, the episode delves into the cultural and theological shifts that have influenced modern Catholicism.
Listeners will gain a deeper understanding of how faith, friendship, and prayer intertwine in the vibrant Sant'Egidio community, providing a beacon of hope and unity. As they share personal stories and encounters, the hosts and guest uncover the importance of living out the Gospel in everyday life while addressing the pressing issues of division and exclusion within the church. Tune in for a thought-provoking exploration of faith, community, and the transformative power of the Eucharist.

Tuesday Jul 22, 2025

Welcome back to another contemplative episode of Theology for the Unwanted. Hosts and Jon explore the nuanced evolution within Catholicism, addressing its shifts from ancient catacombs to modern chapels. Dive into the juxtaposition of rich historical traditions and the necessary openness to new forms of spiritual expression.
Join the discussion on the balance between maintaining beautiful architectural heritage and the need for a faith that actively engages with the world's contemporary challenges. This episode deeply considers the role of human dignity and the unique contributions each individual brings to the church's understanding of God, inspired by the insights of Czech theologian Father Tomáš Halík.

Wednesday Jul 16, 2025

Join us on this episode of "Theology for the Unwanted" as we sit down with Dan and co-host Jon to explore the nuances of striving for an ethical and authentic life as a gay Catholic. Reflecting on personal stories, theological insights, and recent church developments like Fiducia Supplicans, we delve into the complexities of discernment, authenticity, and the evolving role of the Catholic Church. From heartfelt personal experiences to broader discussions on theological progress, this episode invites listeners to reimagine faith in a modern context. Tune in for a thought-provoking conversation on how time, love, and unity can help bridge divides and bring deeper meaning to our shared spiritual journeys.

Tuesday Jul 08, 2025

Welcome back to another thought-provoking episode of Theology for the Unwanted podcast, hosted by Dan with co-host Jon. In this special episode, we are joined by Cade from the Intrinsically Ordered podcast, who shares his personal journey of leaving the traditional Catholic Church in pursuit of a more authentic and fulfilling life.
Explore the challenges and triumphs of navigating identity, faith, and personal beliefs outside the confines of organized religion. Cade reflects on his experiences within the Catholic community and discusses the radical transformation that ensued after stepping away from traditional religious expectations.
Together with Dan and Jon, Cade delves into topics such as inclusivity within the Church, the evolution of Catholic teachings, and the search for a deeper understanding of holiness and morality. This episode is an invitation to embrace the complexity and beauty of individual journeys in faith and life.

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